When selecting a sound suppressor/weapon system, a variety of factors need to be taken into consideration. Caliber: Multi — up to .300 Winchester Magnum What about on bolt guns? The gas exiting the carrier is way louder than the can. The average of the three groups is 0.46 MOA (pictured below). Is it just me or is this can basically a modular Trash Panda with steel construction? We were somehow able to get our hands on the new Nomad-30 from Dead Air Silencers. Going Friday to purchase the Omega. And only 14 oz? Now for my specific usage. And supposedly the Nomad is quieter with subs due to the girth. Check out the video below, did you hear a first round pop? One comes from an honest, hard-working, and great company. Does that make it a good pistol? We accomplished this by shooting multiple 5 round groups at 100 yards using a proven rifle and ammunition. The laser-welded construction provides optimal consistence with no thin-welded sections. Muzzle blast is also reduced by decreasing velocity of the gases and either absorbing the sound waves or canceling them by interference with reflected waves coming from the same source. Itself. I think Q has some pretty cool designs. In the vid above the omega outperforms the sandman L which is a much larger can. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. POI shift from shot to shot is most often related to the mounting system of a quick attach suppressor. Although we didn’t put enough rounds down range to verify, I am told the Dead Air Key-Mo mounting system is not prone to locking up with fouling with extensive shooting as is the case with some quick-detach system. Mageever, or anyone else that knows, how much length and weight does the E brake add? Suppressor baffles are under extreme stress and the materials that are utilized must be matched to the application. The Sandman series is also practically indestructible. As an alternative, the Nomad 30 was designed for shooters looking for a lighter option who don’t necessarily need the multiple mag-dump capability or sustained heavy rates of fire afforded to its skinnier Sandman cousins. 2 years ago. Especially for the shooter, it was flat-out quiet and completely comfortable with a great tone. I first looked at the Sandman L, but with the introduction of the Nomad, I think I’ll save my lunch money and buy the Nomad. Muzzle sound suppressors such as the Nomad are more versatile than integral suppressors, in that they can easily be removed when sound suppression is not necessary. We seek to expand general understanding of the laws collectively referred to as the National Firearms Act and their implications for gun owners and citizens of today. With any suppressor, POI shift will vary from platform to platform. It is covered by a lifetime warranty. Team Wendy EXFIL LTP Tactical Bump Helmet — Lightweight Protection for Your Best Weapon, Spike’s Tactical 9″ Side-Loading Havoc 37mm Launcher, Gunfighter Writer Wildman Monk; Season highlights. In my mind popular calibers/platforms would consist of: What's this recent wipe ordeal that everyone keeps mentioning? It maintains excellent sound suppression thanks to a larger-than-usual 1.735-inch diameter and a unique baffle design. On 5.56 it sounded great. If I were to run a can tucked it would be the omega ran as direct thread and the flash can would allow for unsuppressed shooting. Amazing! Finish: Cerakote I have semi-auto rifles that cost 1/4th to 1/2 that including optics. The Nomad ships with a Dead Air vinyl sticker, two (2) hook spanner wrenches and a hard-sided case. ——————————————— This compact, lightweight, .30 caliber suppressor strikes a balance that makes it ideal for most of the silencer-buying market . The maintenance requirements will differ depending on the suppressor. The Dead Air Sandman-S is widely regarded as a suppressor that can take ruthless punishment while still providing superb decibel reduction on multiple platforms. The Nomad is shipped with a 7.62 Grade 5 titanium cap installed on the suppressor. It features laser-welded tubeless17-4 PH stainless steel construction with Grade 5 titanium 5/8×24 direct thread mount back cap and front cap insert. With the help of Fossil Pointe Sporting Grounds in Decatur, Texas, I had a chance to compare the Nomad L to three other suppressors: the Nomad 30, the Dead Air Sandman-L, and the SilencerCo Hybrid. The Nomad-30 is specifically designed for the everyday shooter. Yeah I may not have worded that properly. “When total cost of ownership gets down to around $400, I will buy one.”. It is, in the words of the company, designed to go everywhere you go, mounted on whatever rifle suits you job for the day. Wonder how common that is? In a high stress/high heat environment it just seems like something you’d want to avoid considering the glue is failing lots of people. A common question that I hear from those who are looking for a new 30 caliber is a comparison request between Dead Air’s Sandman-S and the Nomad-30 (and now Nomad-L). Anybody know what weight difference is for the Nomad with Plan B and Cherry Bomb is vs Trash Panda and Cherry Bomb? These include the operational requirements in the mission in which it will be employed, any special ammunition requirements, cost, maintenance and any required modification to the weapon. The Nomad-30 would be at home at a PRS match, out hunting on a bolt gun or hunting hogs with a semi-auto, or taking a tactical carbine course and sending a thousand rounds down range in a day. Minimum Barrel Length: no restriction The Q will be lighter. The size and weight of the Nomad-30 make it a great choice for our Shorty 6.5 Creedmoor rifles. Performance with the subsonic .300 BLK was stellar. — full power rifle calibers I think MAC did and the sandman did the nest for 308. But for the typical everyday shooter they are overbuilt. The Nomad utilizes a new 1.735-inch diameter body and surface milled features. Anytime you put a weight on the muzzle you will see some POI shift. Wow that this makes me so glad that I jumped on the Resonator early, even though there were hardly any reviews. How quiet is it compared to the Sandman K and S? level 1. If you want a flat cap, let me know. Including, of course, Dead Air’s own Key-Mo system that works with their brakes and flash hiders. If you continue to use this site we will assume that you are happy with it. I wouldn't stand in front of a piss-filled supersoaker. How much of an inconvenience is it to swap from direct thread to the asr mount on the omega when swapping hosts? I just read something about someone on arfcom making them in Ti. Thread mount suppressors are widely used on precision rifles. *The views and opinions expressed on this website are solely those of the original authors and contributors. A couple of weeks ago I found myself in Salt Lake City which of course meant I just had to make the trek out to visit Mike Pappas and Todd Magee of Dead Air Silencers. Don't bother stressing over the decibel levels, they don't mean shit. POI shift when mounting a suppressor is more impacted by the threads on the weapon than the suppressor. [Last Edit: 1/24/2019 4:38:31 PM EDT by RenegadeX], [Last Edit: 1/24/2019 4:43:18 PM EDT by ConcernedCitizen], [Last Edit: 1/24/2019 10:16:30 PM EDT by l_Ferret_l], [Last Edit: 1/25/2019 12:57:08 AM EDT by Donut777donut], [Last Edit: 1/25/2019 11:42:42 AM EDT by Amish_Bill], [Last Edit: 1/25/2019 11:46:34 AM EDT by HansohnBrothers], [Last Edit: 2/1/2019 11:03:52 PM EDT by jeremywills]. Although perceived recoil is somewhat subjective, the E-Brake did seem to soften it even further, although the subsonic rounds we were using are hardly heavy recoiling. Asked what? Think the YHM would out preform? Then we put rounds down range, firing .300 Win Mag, 300 Blackout, and 5.56 through the Nomad. Just for keymo option, and versatility. It was rated the loudest can on Silencer Tests. My buddy ran his Sandman S on his 6.5 CM bolt gun this past weekend and it sounded excellent. On the mount end, Dead Air made the cool decision of designing the Nomad to be compatible with “legacy” mounts. Required fields are marked *. Originally developed for use on automobile headers and now used widely in the firearms industry, Cerakote is a high quality, long lasting thin-film ceramic finish that provides extreme hardness, outstanding abrasion resistance, superior durability and excellent corrosion protection. Same goes for other direct thread mounts. Numbers taken at the muzzle of a 11.5" 5.56mm SBR using M855: This shows just how close the Razor, Sandman s and the new Vox are. I was provided with this product on loan as a courtesy from the manufacturer so I could test it and give my honest feedback. A barrel is essentially a cantilevered beam. — rimfire (.22 LR and .22 WMR) Despite being lightweight, it has great strength and additionally has outstanding corrosion resistance. Dead Air Silencers is well known for making robust products that can withstand incredible amounts of punishment. The Key-Mo mount provides a very secure lockup. Except that experience has shown that muzzle numbers aren't particularly important. I use it on a 300wsm. If you are already a fan of Dead Air muzzle devices, you’ll be happy to know the Nomad-30 is Key-Mo compatible. Mike Pappas, Founder of Dead Air Armament and Director of New Product Development, set out to further the legacy of the Sandman series with a new lightweight suppressor designed specifically for the everyday user. For such a small suppressor, it cut the sound of that punchy caliber shockingly well. It’s a great can, but it’s like 11” long. Which you will need for a mount… But you can get a $399 ghost-M…two cans for $1600? If I’m going to Shell Out a “Grand” or more for a .30-caliber Suppressor! . Overall, I'm pretty proud of how it turned out. The larger outer diameter offers lower back pressure, increased surface area for faster heat dissipation, and increased grip for tightening/loosening the suppressor. where full power rifle calibers would include the likes of .243 Winchester, .270 Winchester, .308 Winchester, and .30-06 Springfield. I have a guy in Mooresville that makes them in Ti for less than SiCo sells theirs. The .308 Revolution was equipped with a Dead Air muzzle brake and utilized the Nomad with the Key-Mo Adapter to quick attach the suppressor. So save $50! Muzzle blast is the consequence of the shock waves resulting from high-pressure gases exiting the barrel. Wonder if it's the same person. Once you’re under that hearing safe threshold of 140 dB, things like weight, length, caliber/rate of fire/barrel length restrictions, price become more important than chasing dB numbers. Getting good muzzle numbers is easy, and just requires you to make your cam extremely restrictive (read: high backpressure). It is lightweight, versatile and modular. I have a ThunderChicken and a Nomad and have a good amount of time on the Trash Panda. Impressive numbers for the Yankee hill cans. I know you brought up the baffle/tube separation but I don't see that as a major issue. Size, weight, and mount seem to be the only differences. Excessive back-pressure will increase the cyclic rate, causing weapon malfunctions, reduce the service life of the weapon, spit gasses back into the face of the operator, and cause increased fouling.